[MI8 - dipper] MIUI Camera vs BSG Google Camera Port


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I'm preparing a similar review for my chanel on youtube but my conclutions aren't the same. I find HDR more deep in Miui's cam and the portrait mode in rear camera is not working whit GCAM. The only one point i find better in pixel camera is the nigth mode.
Great review mate.

I always carry both cameras, and in both the rear cameras work in a similar way, some case stock do a great work. Only when I'm going to use the front camera, they have a lot of advantage in GCAM.
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[MI8 - dipper] MIUI Camera vs BSG Google Camera Port

My configuration :
- Hardware : Mi8
- Software : HavocOS (link)
- MIUI Camera : ANX MIUI Camera v7 (Magisk module) (01/25/2019) (link)
- Google Pixel Camera : BSG Google Camera Port (12/30/2018) (link) (BSG's config : link)

Personal favourite : BSG Google Camera Port

My thoughts so far :
  • Details : Google (on most shots)
  • Night Mode : Google (by far)
  • Portrait Mode : Google (details + blur + colors)
  • Colors : None (customizable)
  • HDR : Google (because MIUI's HDR also use a post-process effect that shrinks the dynamic range, and reduces the amount of details)
  • Optical zoom : MIUI
Remarks :
  • HDR+ Enhanced takes more time and requires to hold the phone steady when taking the picture, but it is very helpful in some particular cases
  • You can adjust the smoothness of the picture on portrait mode, in both apps
  • Don't be afraid to use the flash for indoor pictures, it gives a white lighting, and thus a better white balance
  • MIUI's HDR seems to use a post-process effect that actually shrinks the dynamic range
  • Use jpeg quality of 80% (medium), you will divide the weight of the image by 4, with no visible loss of quality
  • Both apps have optical zoom. On Google Camera, activate "add AUX to camera switch" (in BSG MOD Settings), then double tap on the camera switch button to activate the zoom
  • Optical zoom is ineffective, or even worse when light is to lack
To the reader :
  • Ask questions in the topic, not by private message
  • I can post more pictures if you need
  • I'm always happy to help :)
How HDR+ works : link

The Test

Night Shot

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

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  • Bad colors
  • Makes dark areas less dark, but not more detailed (dynamic range shrink)

  • More details
  • Effective HDR
  • Natural colors



Portrait mode

MIUI, portrait mode (beautify = 0)

Google, portrait mode (smoothness = natural)

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  • Colors too white
  • Less details
  • Hair blurred
  • Over exposed background

 


Bright outdoor

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

Google, HDR+ Enhanced

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  • Blurred picture
  • Faded colors

  • No big improvement over 1st picture

  • Perfectly controlled exposure
  • Good colors



Night mode

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, Night mode

Google, HDR+

Google, Night mode

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  • Not so bad for a shot is the dark

  • Too noisy
  • Not efficient

  • HDR+ better than MIUI night mode !
  • Still too noisy

  • Awesome !



Against the light (taken from behind a windows)

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

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  • Over exposed sky

  • Still a bit over exposed

  • Efficient HDR
  • Natural colours



HDR test

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

Google, HDR+ Enhanced

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  • Exposure 3/5

  • Exposure 5/5
  • Blurry picture though

  • Exposure 1/5

  • Exposure 4/5
  • Really makes a difference with HDR+
  • Unatural colours



Optical Zoom Test (message on the sign : Interdiction de marcher sur les pelouses)

MIUI, zoom = 1

MIUI, zoom = 2

Google, zoom = 1

Google, 1 < zoom < 2

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  • Best zoom, I can read the sign

 

  • I can see the pixels
  • Sharper image
  • I can read the sign too

  • Use jpeg quality of 80% (medium), you will divide the weight of the image by 4, with no visible loss of quality
 
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Deleted member 227806

[MI8 - dipper] MIUI Camera vs BSG Google Camera Port

My configuration :
- Hardware : Mi8
- Software : HavocOS (link)
- MIUI Camera : ANX MIUI Camera v7 (Magisk module) (01/25/2019) (link)
- Google Pixel Camera : BSG Google Camera Port (12/30/2018) (link) (BSG's config : link)

Personal favourite : BSG Google Camera Port

My thoughts so far :
  • Details : Google (on most shots)
  • Night Mode : Google (by far)
  • Portrait Mode : Google (details + blur + colors)
  • Colors : None (customizable)
  • HDR : Google (because MIUI's HDR also use a post-process effect that shrinks the dynamic range, and reduces the amount of details)
  • Optical zoom : MIUI
Remarks :
  • HDR+ Enhanced takes more time and requires to hold the phone steady when taking the picture, but it is very helpful in some particular cases
  • You can adjust the smoothness of the picture on portrait mode, in both apps
  • Don't be afraid to use the flash for indoor pictures, it gives a white lighting, and thus a better white balance
  • MIUI's HDR seems to use a post-process effect that actually shrinks the dynamic range
  • Use jpeg quality of 80% (medium), you will divide the weight of the image by 4, with no visible loss of quality
  • Both apps have optical zoom. On Google Camera, activate "add AUX to camera switch" (in BSG MOD Settings), then double tap on the camera switch button to activate the zoom
  • Optical zoom is ineffective, or even worse when light is to lack
To the reader :
  • Ask questions in the topic, not by private message
  • I can post more pictures if you need
  • I'm always happy to help :)
How HDR+ works : link

The Test

Night Shot

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

View attachment 23315

View attachment 23316

View attachment 23317

 

  • Bad colors
  • Makes dark areas less dark, but not more detailed (dynamic range shrink)

  • More details
  • Effective HDR
  • Natural colors



Portrait mode

MIUI, portrait mode (beautify = 0)

Google, portrait mode (smoothness = natural)

View attachment 23078

View attachment 23081

  • Colors too white
  • Less details
  • Hair blurred
  • Over exposed background

 


Bright outdoor

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

Google, HDR+ Enhanced

View attachment 23456

View attachment 23457

View attachment 23465

View attachment 23466

 

  • Blurred picture
  • Faded colors

  • No big improvement over 1st picture

  • Perfectly controlled exposure
  • Good colors



Night mode

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, Night mode

Google, HDR+

Google, Night mode

View attachment 23215

View attachment 23216

View attachment 23217

View attachment 23218

  • Not so bad for a shot is the dark

  • Too noisy
  • Not efficient

  • HDR+ better than MIUI night mode !
  • Still too noisy

  • Awesome !



Against the light (taken from behind a windows)

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

View attachment 23263

View attachment 23264

View attachment 23262

  • Over exposed sky

  • Still a bit over exposed

  • Efficient HDR
  • Natural colours



HDR test

MIUI, HDR off

MIUI, HDR on

Google, HDR+

Google, HDR+ Enhanced

View attachment 23325

View attachment 23326

View attachment 23327

View attachment 23328

  • Exposure 3/5

  • Exposure 5/5
  • Blurry picture though

  • Exposure 1/5

  • Exposure 4/5
  • Really makes a difference with HDR+
  • Unatural colours



Optical Zoom Test (message on the sign : Interdiction de marcher sur les pelouses)

MIUI, zoom = 1

MIUI, zoom = 2

Google, zoom = 1

Google, 1 < zoom < 2

View attachment 23468

View attachment 23469

View attachment 23470

View attachment 23471

 

  • Best zoom, I can read the sign

 

  • I can see the pixels
  • Sharper image
  • I can read the sign too

  • Use jpeg quality of 80% (medium), you will divide the weight of the image by 4, with no visible loss of quality
 

stema84

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I'm considering a Mi 8 and it's really encouraging that gcam works so well on it. I have a few questions, since I'm a quality freak :)
-How many images can it handle for an hdr? Afaik the default is 8, the pixel 3 uses 15, and you can set it up to 36.
-Does raw work with hdr+ enhanced and night sight?
-Can you post some raw images as well? If it works, with the aformentioned modes
-If I understood right, you can use the telephoto camera with gcam with no downsides (other than the small pixels of course, so compared to the miui cam). I didn't really understand it's ineffectiveness you mentioned :)
few questions about the portrait mode:
-Does it work with both tele and wide cameras?
-Does it have to digitally zoom in or can you use the default FOV for the given cam?
 

Hydro

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@stema84
I can only advise you to buy this Mi8, it is such a good phone for the price :D HavosOS ROM is awesome, we have a very dedicated developer :)

-How many images can it handle for an hdr? Afaik the default is 8, the pixel 3 uses 15, and you can set it up to 36.
From 2 to 36 frames, you have to set a minimum and a maximum value.
-Does raw work with hdr+ enhanced and night sight?
RAW works with HDR+ Enhanced. It does not work with Night Sight.
-Can you post some raw images as well? If it works, with the aformentioned modes
I can't, they are too heavy. And I don't see the point ^^
-If I understood right, you can use the telephoto camera with gcam with no downsides (other than the small pixels of course, so compared to the miui cam). I didn't really understand it's ineffectiveness you mentioned :)
It works well, the zoom is just less than MIUI's, which is x2.
few questions about the portrait mode:
-Does it work with both tele and wide cameras?
Not sure what are tele and wide cameras, but zoom works on portrait mode.
-Does it have to digitally zoom in or can you use the default FOV for the given cam?
You can disable the digital zoom that is activated by default.
 
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Stoffl

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Yes you can swap between normal and Tele lens in gcam with the correct version by pressing front/back toggle twice in quick succession
 
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stema84

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thx for the quick reply!
-Is the mi8 able to process even with the 36 frames? the note8 we tried crached above 15 and took forever even for that.
-I mainly shoot raw, so that is the paint, I would like to see what I can bring out of it in lightroom, and I only found 1 mi 8 gcam raw so far.
-tele is the 56mm ("2x zoom"), and wide is the standard main lens (~26-28mm). but you ansered my question :)

thanks for the answers so far :)
 

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I will say though that the Tele lens isn't very useful in gcam. There doesn't appear to be any ois/Eis.
Normal lens with digital zoom makes much better pictures
 

Hydro

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I just tried a shot in my room, with min 36 and max 36 frames, and it worked just fine.
What is the advantage of shooting in raw then? Because I get a perfect quality with jpeg, the only limit is the sensor and the noise.

Sent from my Mi 8 using Tapatalk
 

BokiP22

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I can't find such setting inside BSG mod settings. Which version do you use? I'm using MGC_6.1.021_F1_V1.7.apk on my Mi Mix 2s. Maybe it can't detect the Tele camera ony none MIUI ROMS.

EDIT: It works in MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e+ !!! Thanks BTW for that info! With that now I will stick with this GCam Version.
Where Is V2e+?
 

Hydro

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thx for the quick reply!
-Is the mi8 able to process even with the 36 frames? the note8 we tried crached above 15 and took forever even for that.
-I mainly shoot raw, so that is the paint, I would like to see what I can bring out of it in lightroom, and I only found 1 mi 8 gcam raw so far.
-tele is the 56mm ("2x zoom"), and wide is the standard main lens (~26-28mm). but you ansered my question :)

thanks for the answers so far :)
Sol I tried RAW shots outdoor today, and the result was ugly. Picture is not that heavy (10MP), but with some kind of blur that looks like a heavy lossy compression.
Anyone having the same issue?

Sent from my Mi 8 using Tapatalk
 
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Josecuadros

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Hey there, I'm really new at miui and this mi 8 is going to be my first xiaomi cellphone. I purchased it from ********** as a global version, and as a photography enthusiast I like to know if I need to flash the rom or stay as it comes and use gcam, I know there should be. A lot of info out there but I think you guys are the most interested on this stuff. Thanks and sorry for the english
 

Hydro

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Hey there, I'm really new at miui and this mi 8 is going to be my first xiaomi cellphone. I purchased it from ********** as a global version, and as a photography enthusiast I like to know if I need to flash the rom or stay as it comes and use gcam, I know there should be. A lot of info out there but I think you guys are the most interested on this stuff. Thanks and sorry for the english
In my opinion, you should really switch to HavocOs anyway, I personnaly really dislike MIUI and I don't know if GCam works on it. There should not be any difference between MIUI and Havoc concerning photo quality, only the app should make a difference :)
 

Josecuadros

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In my opinion, you should really switch to HavocOs anyway, I personnaly really dislike MIUI and I don't know if GCam works on it. There should not be any difference between MIUI and Havoc concerning photo quality, only the app should make a difference :)
I was able to install gcam on Android 9 just like any other app and it's really awesome,specially on the low light and selfies.

So now my question is this, when I use the front camera it always puts in a mirror effect,is there anyway to change that? And also gcam says the front camera is only 5 mpx when should be 20.

Please check if that's happens with you too.